When you propose stuff like banning gene and germline editing, as well as mind control BCIs, you have to understand, first and foremost, that you are up against an establishment that has been actively seeking these things as a means of social control, behind the scenes, for at least 50 years. Counteracting that agenda is no small feat.
Also, they will be trying, every step of the way, to emotionally blackmail people, claiming - perhaps truthfully - that these very same technologies could be used to treat congenital illnesses, mental illnesses, paralysis, blindness, and so on, while secretly plotting to use them for social control and cognitive warfare.
This goes all the way back to Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jose Delgado and the like. Way back to the 1970s. They've been waiting for the tech to become practical for a very long time.
Genetic engineering is also mind control. A lot of people don't get that, at first glance. A gene is just a template for a protein. If you can make someone's neurons express proteins that are receptive to designer drugs, and then slip something into the water, that's mind control. It's called DREADDs/chemogenetics.
It's also entirely possible to engineer microorganisms that behave less like microbes and more like tiny nanomachines, expressing proteins not found in nature, with functions not found in nature.
Regulating BCIs and making laws against the genetic engineering of human beings just scratches the surface. Bionanotechnology is literally opening Pandora's Box.
Heritable, germline modifications should be banned because nobody knows what the long-term consequences will be. However, there are many potential benefits of gene therapy that only affects one individual (also referred to as somatic cell therapy), such as treating congenital illnesses like fatal familial insomnia in utero, or gene and immunotherapy to treat cancer.
The problem is that the past couple years have eroded so much of my own trust in our healthcare system and pharmaceutical research, I honestly don't believe that any of these people can be trusted to tinker with the code that makes up a human being.
There is no way to know if gene therapy begets germline modifcations without long-term multi-generational studies. And as you point out, all bets are off on trusting anyone in research and healthcare until there is a reckoning and reconciliation for what has happened.
This, unfortunately, won't work. No petition, even a global one, will ever change anything if The Party doesn't allow it. They will have multiple ways to circumvent any attempts, at all stages, of such a petition taking place and being successful. They control the media. This means you will never get enough traction to have any meaningful number of votes or recognition globally. They only need to bring up one thing: "conspiracy theory" to discredit the entire thing and be taken seriously. Even if you can somehow move past that stage, they can fiddle with the counting/voting system via many different routes and ultimately cheat their way out of it by changing results. Yes, they have the power to do that. Now, I can give the author the benefit of the doubt. Let's assume all the stages are successful somehow, and people vote to ban the genetic modification of humans. The Party will simply bury the global treaty and ratification process in an endless bureaucratic mess. They will simply delay the entire thing claiming it will take 5-10 years to do this, where it will simply be too late then. Also, let's be real. When crises are announced, locally or globally, this is where rights, principles, treaties, laws, or ideas like the social contract are always put aside, forgotten, or broken. People need to understand that in times like this, voting, petitions, and protests are meaningless and simply can never enact any change the populous wants. Once people understand and accept that, they can start searching for solutions that can actually be successful in achieving goals set by the oppressed.
Thanks for taking the time to write out this response ans outlining what we are up against. For the moment though, do you agree in principle on the ban on genetic modifcation of humans?
"So why not simply ban them in humans, and in perpetuity?
1. THEY do not follow the law.
2. The courts, judges, police, and "bioweapon labs around the world FUNDED by "our" govt" will neither follow nor enforce your "laws. (As they did not in creating this (these?!) gain-of-function products...)
3. IF, God forbid, you were paralyzed (by accident or poison-vaxx!), and your new law(s) had stopped all research into how to give you BACK some movement and ability to live again, that okay with you? You gonna just lie there for years/decades and feel triumph at getting your law? What about prosthetics for folks who lose a limb? Too-bad-so-sad for THEIR recovery?
It's NEVER as simple (and it's NEVER successful) to merely 'hope" the law can stop or force something you'd like controlled. How about BLM/antifa ILLEGALLY burning down our cities (and even killing some folks?! Murder's against the law too, isn't it? Did ANYONE get prosecuted -- or were they just cut loose by the courts/police/DAs?). So, how's THAT working for yah?
Interesting tidbits you do not know. Catherine Austin Fitts had her teams do some deep-digging: something like 36 out of 37 "biz districts" burned out in the mostly peaceful not-protests were so-called "Opportunity Zones" (funny -- or not -- much of the rioting ALWAYS seemed to occur in those blocks and not others) -- which "opportunities" were created by the govt in 2018 so Big Tech moguls, selling off $millions of their stocks, could "reinvest" (i.e., pay NO capital gains taxes!) IN those burnt-out blocks.
Dja know the insurance policies for those co's that even HAD them -- that the anarchists claimed "would pay" for their destruction of properties and businesses -- ALWAYS include a 'non-payment clause' for 'rioting'? Yeah, didn't think you knew that either. EVEN the folks who HAD "riot" coverage: it generally might pay for *rebuilding* but NOT for the clearing off the burnt-out husk and preparing the ground for a new biz. (Hundreds of thousands of dollars the small biz owners DO. NOT. HAVE. So they HAD to sell -- and guess who was standing by with their now-untaxed $millions?! (Also: that money goes to the mortgage holder -- NOT the small biz owner!)
"Appealing to the courts" (police, Soros-owned DAs, judges, politicians) is just naïve. And we CANNOT have naïve anymore!! Lovely, hope-filled ideas that CANNOT work.
James, I appreciate your sentiments and I align with them, except the idea of 'banning' something involves law and government. Both the judiciaries and state worldwide have been captured by the WEF and their co-conspirators, so banning something at establishment level is a non starter. We the people have to rise up together in our own power. There are far more of us than there are of them. We have a window of opportunity, as Klaus put it. Let's use it for ourselves, together while we still can.
I understand your concern and have a possible solution. The grand strategy is to do an end run around government and organize a worldwide vote on the ban. The goal is to get 1 billion votes, to send an unmistakeable message to our rogue 'leaders' what the will of the people is.
Information and consensus is a start. What do you think we can do? How can a physical uprising occur without a populace that understands the situation? How does a physical uprising offer a peaceful, loving resolution to the situation? How do you envision a successful physical uprising playing out?
Those are important questions that need answers. As much as I may rally for an uprising of any and all kinds, how they will take form is another matter. I have some ideas but ultimately it can only be predictive astrology. To mobilize millions, billions, of people takes a certain force, a collective agreement. Consensus is being engineered at present by the media and those behind them. Examples of the break of consensus are the Dutch farmers who saw through this scam and put their tractors to work on the streets. The truckers in Canada. It's this kind of protest, the visuals of which people see directly, rather than the distortions and lies from television, that we need more and more of. I don't advocate violence, but when one is being physically attacked one has to defend oneself.
I was in Rome years ago and took part in a critical mass bike ride called Ciemmona. Almost a thousand of us rode through the streets of Rome on a particular route blocking traffic and causing a standstill as we came slowly through. It was a protest against car pollution and how it damages not just people's lungs but the ancient monuments and historical buildings of the city. Even the police couldn't stop us, although they tried!! It brought attention to everyone who saw it, without any false interpretation by the media - which happened later.
There are as many people who have as many views as there are possibilities in terms of an uprising. When people's lives are threatened, when their very survival is at stake, then those normally going along to get along will realize they have to do something. What that is remains to be seen. There is no galvanizing leader with all the necessary facts and the consciousness for it. We have to do this ourselves and right now the fog machine is getting hacked and more of us can see the sheer extent of evil that is being perpetrated.
What do you think of making a poster with a mug shot of Klaus Schwab with a Header, for example something like "This man wants to modify you and your children? Do you want that?"
Below there is a qr code that links to a website with more information and the petition to sign electronically?
I am active in several local groups but have yet to bring this idea forth in a formal manner.
>I say draw up the petition and post it here for review.
As for the wording of the petition, I can draw up a draft but ideally it would be in the hands of more capable minds. That's why I wanted to reach out to thought leaders first to get them onboard and then harness their audiences for maximal distribution on a united message, rather than going it alone.
I don't know the best design, all of that is outside of my expertise. The idea I do have is to crowdsource these initiatives so we can fill the gaps in each other's talents and abilities.
I posted the page to Spartacus and updated the article. I also created an email so subscribers can participate in crowdsourcing events. Thanks for helping to get the ball rolling!
Tweeted this article to get it out there so people see it.
https://twitter.com/NameIsSpartacus/status/1566979440881827840
When you propose stuff like banning gene and germline editing, as well as mind control BCIs, you have to understand, first and foremost, that you are up against an establishment that has been actively seeking these things as a means of social control, behind the scenes, for at least 50 years. Counteracting that agenda is no small feat.
Also, they will be trying, every step of the way, to emotionally blackmail people, claiming - perhaps truthfully - that these very same technologies could be used to treat congenital illnesses, mental illnesses, paralysis, blindness, and so on, while secretly plotting to use them for social control and cognitive warfare.
This goes all the way back to Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jose Delgado and the like. Way back to the 1970s. They've been waiting for the tech to become practical for a very long time.
Genetic engineering is also mind control. A lot of people don't get that, at first glance. A gene is just a template for a protein. If you can make someone's neurons express proteins that are receptive to designer drugs, and then slip something into the water, that's mind control. It's called DREADDs/chemogenetics.
It's also entirely possible to engineer microorganisms that behave less like microbes and more like tiny nanomachines, expressing proteins not found in nature, with functions not found in nature.
Regulating BCIs and making laws against the genetic engineering of human beings just scratches the surface. Bionanotechnology is literally opening Pandora's Box.
It all has to be stopped then. Just for the record, you agree in principle that genetic modification of humans should be banned?
Heritable, germline modifications should be banned because nobody knows what the long-term consequences will be. However, there are many potential benefits of gene therapy that only affects one individual (also referred to as somatic cell therapy), such as treating congenital illnesses like fatal familial insomnia in utero, or gene and immunotherapy to treat cancer.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/somatic-gene-therapy
Even somatic cell therapy can be turned towards malicious purposes, however.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTtIPBPSv0U
The problem is that the past couple years have eroded so much of my own trust in our healthcare system and pharmaceutical research, I honestly don't believe that any of these people can be trusted to tinker with the code that makes up a human being.
There is no way to know if gene therapy begets germline modifcations without long-term multi-generational studies. And as you point out, all bets are off on trusting anyone in research and healthcare until there is a reckoning and reconciliation for what has happened.
I added a poll to the article, to see what the consensus is on the ban.
https://proposingsolutions.substack.com/p/proposing-solutions-1#poll-10192
This, unfortunately, won't work. No petition, even a global one, will ever change anything if The Party doesn't allow it. They will have multiple ways to circumvent any attempts, at all stages, of such a petition taking place and being successful. They control the media. This means you will never get enough traction to have any meaningful number of votes or recognition globally. They only need to bring up one thing: "conspiracy theory" to discredit the entire thing and be taken seriously. Even if you can somehow move past that stage, they can fiddle with the counting/voting system via many different routes and ultimately cheat their way out of it by changing results. Yes, they have the power to do that. Now, I can give the author the benefit of the doubt. Let's assume all the stages are successful somehow, and people vote to ban the genetic modification of humans. The Party will simply bury the global treaty and ratification process in an endless bureaucratic mess. They will simply delay the entire thing claiming it will take 5-10 years to do this, where it will simply be too late then. Also, let's be real. When crises are announced, locally or globally, this is where rights, principles, treaties, laws, or ideas like the social contract are always put aside, forgotten, or broken. People need to understand that in times like this, voting, petitions, and protests are meaningless and simply can never enact any change the populous wants. Once people understand and accept that, they can start searching for solutions that can actually be successful in achieving goals set by the oppressed.
Thanks for taking the time to write out this response ans outlining what we are up against. For the moment though, do you agree in principle on the ban on genetic modifcation of humans?
"So why not simply ban them in humans, and in perpetuity?
1. THEY do not follow the law.
2. The courts, judges, police, and "bioweapon labs around the world FUNDED by "our" govt" will neither follow nor enforce your "laws. (As they did not in creating this (these?!) gain-of-function products...)
3. IF, God forbid, you were paralyzed (by accident or poison-vaxx!), and your new law(s) had stopped all research into how to give you BACK some movement and ability to live again, that okay with you? You gonna just lie there for years/decades and feel triumph at getting your law? What about prosthetics for folks who lose a limb? Too-bad-so-sad for THEIR recovery?
It's NEVER as simple (and it's NEVER successful) to merely 'hope" the law can stop or force something you'd like controlled. How about BLM/antifa ILLEGALLY burning down our cities (and even killing some folks?! Murder's against the law too, isn't it? Did ANYONE get prosecuted -- or were they just cut loose by the courts/police/DAs?). So, how's THAT working for yah?
Interesting tidbits you do not know. Catherine Austin Fitts had her teams do some deep-digging: something like 36 out of 37 "biz districts" burned out in the mostly peaceful not-protests were so-called "Opportunity Zones" (funny -- or not -- much of the rioting ALWAYS seemed to occur in those blocks and not others) -- which "opportunities" were created by the govt in 2018 so Big Tech moguls, selling off $millions of their stocks, could "reinvest" (i.e., pay NO capital gains taxes!) IN those burnt-out blocks.
Dja know the insurance policies for those co's that even HAD them -- that the anarchists claimed "would pay" for their destruction of properties and businesses -- ALWAYS include a 'non-payment clause' for 'rioting'? Yeah, didn't think you knew that either. EVEN the folks who HAD "riot" coverage: it generally might pay for *rebuilding* but NOT for the clearing off the burnt-out husk and preparing the ground for a new biz. (Hundreds of thousands of dollars the small biz owners DO. NOT. HAVE. So they HAD to sell -- and guess who was standing by with their now-untaxed $millions?! (Also: that money goes to the mortgage holder -- NOT the small biz owner!)
"Appealing to the courts" (police, Soros-owned DAs, judges, politicians) is just naïve. And we CANNOT have naïve anymore!! Lovely, hope-filled ideas that CANNOT work.
I appreciate your rebuttal. Now I invite you to propose a solution to the issues you raised, and look forward to hearing back.
James, I appreciate your sentiments and I align with them, except the idea of 'banning' something involves law and government. Both the judiciaries and state worldwide have been captured by the WEF and their co-conspirators, so banning something at establishment level is a non starter. We the people have to rise up together in our own power. There are far more of us than there are of them. We have a window of opportunity, as Klaus put it. Let's use it for ourselves, together while we still can.
I understand your concern and have a possible solution. The grand strategy is to do an end run around government and organize a worldwide vote on the ban. The goal is to get 1 billion votes, to send an unmistakeable message to our rogue 'leaders' what the will of the people is.
While that will show consensus, I still have to play party-pooper. They will steam ahead regardless. We need a physical uprising, not just a ballot.
Information and consensus is a start. What do you think we can do? How can a physical uprising occur without a populace that understands the situation? How does a physical uprising offer a peaceful, loving resolution to the situation? How do you envision a successful physical uprising playing out?
Those are important questions that need answers. As much as I may rally for an uprising of any and all kinds, how they will take form is another matter. I have some ideas but ultimately it can only be predictive astrology. To mobilize millions, billions, of people takes a certain force, a collective agreement. Consensus is being engineered at present by the media and those behind them. Examples of the break of consensus are the Dutch farmers who saw through this scam and put their tractors to work on the streets. The truckers in Canada. It's this kind of protest, the visuals of which people see directly, rather than the distortions and lies from television, that we need more and more of. I don't advocate violence, but when one is being physically attacked one has to defend oneself.
I was in Rome years ago and took part in a critical mass bike ride called Ciemmona. Almost a thousand of us rode through the streets of Rome on a particular route blocking traffic and causing a standstill as we came slowly through. It was a protest against car pollution and how it damages not just people's lungs but the ancient monuments and historical buildings of the city. Even the police couldn't stop us, although they tried!! It brought attention to everyone who saw it, without any false interpretation by the media - which happened later.
There are as many people who have as many views as there are possibilities in terms of an uprising. When people's lives are threatened, when their very survival is at stake, then those normally going along to get along will realize they have to do something. What that is remains to be seen. There is no galvanizing leader with all the necessary facts and the consciousness for it. We have to do this ourselves and right now the fog machine is getting hacked and more of us can see the sheer extent of evil that is being perpetrated.
What do you think of making a poster with a mug shot of Klaus Schwab with a Header, for example something like "This man wants to modify you and your children? Do you want that?"
Below there is a qr code that links to a website with more information and the petition to sign electronically?
I am active in several local groups but have yet to bring this idea forth in a formal manner.
>I say draw up the petition and post it here for review.
As for the wording of the petition, I can draw up a draft but ideally it would be in the hands of more capable minds. That's why I wanted to reach out to thought leaders first to get them onboard and then harness their audiences for maximal distribution on a united message, rather than going it alone.
I don't know the best design, all of that is outside of my expertise. The idea I do have is to crowdsource these initiatives so we can fill the gaps in each other's talents and abilities.
I posted the page to Spartacus and updated the article. I also created an email so subscribers can participate in crowdsourcing events. Thanks for helping to get the ball rolling!